「林醫師,你幫Janet接生呀?」
「Nonono.!..是George接生的!
從頭到尾都在搖滾區卻非常的專注冷靜!」
Janet Hsieh 謝怡芬 & George Young 真的是非常恩愛的一對夫妻
能參與他們的懷孕,生產,是件幸福的事
祝福你們
首先~要大大感謝大家的恭喜和祝福簡訊及禮物!其實到現在一切都還感覺很不真實,而我好像還停留在呆滯的狀態。我,的,天,啊,我真的是位媽咪了! George Young 我們有個兒子了!
(對了所以有人猜對嗎?是位男孩,10/11,凌晨2:37出生,3650公克,有大GG(像媽媽一樣man,哈哈!)
First of all, THANK YOU for all of the congratulatory messages, support, and presents! It’s been so surreal and I’m still in a daze. OMG! I’m a MOMMY!!! GEORGE, WE HAVE A SON!! @instageorgy
(BTW, anybody guess correctly? Baby boy, born Oct 11, 2:37am, 3650g, big GG (Takes after mommy. haha!))
現在我終於有時間可以稍微回顧,也同時想把這特別的分娩經驗分享給大家。
Now that I have time to think back, I wanted to share MY labor experience with you.
如何把寶寶生出來的101條守則:
How to deliver a baby 101:
先列出一個非常詳細的生寶寶計畫,包含以下需要事先想清楚:
自然產 v.s. 剖腹產
有打藥催生 v.s. 無藥
會陰剪開 v.s. 自然撕裂
是否寶寶一生出來就和母體肌膚接觸
是否保存臍帶、臍帶血
Write a very detailed birth plan. Include the following
Vaginal delivery vs. C-section
Medicated vs. Non-medicated
Episiotomy or natural tearing
Skin to skin afterwards or not
Do you want to keep the umbilical cord and cord blood for cord blood registry?
2. 小心翼翼地拿著那本生寶寶計畫並且沿長邊對著中線對折
Take that birth plan and carefully fold it in half, long ways, down the middle.
3. 再將紙攤開來
Open it back up again
4. 將紙的右上角往中線摺成三角形
Fold the top right corner down to the middle line, forming a triangle
5. 將紙的左上角往中線摺成另一個對等的三角形
Fold the left right corner down to the middle line, forming a matching triangle
6. 將你的生寶寶計畫(現在它應該是個紙飛機了)往窗外飛,然後和它揮手說再見
Fly your birth plan (now a paper airplane) out the closest window and wave byebye
哈哈。 well, 這個是我自己的經驗啦。
Haha. Well, that’s how it worked out for me in the end anyway.
生小孩之前,我們做很多研究,問了很多朋友然後跟我們的醫生 林思宏醫師 討論了。我跟George決定要用最自然的方式來生小孩, 用最少的醫療。 除非有緊急狀況或是必須的條件,我們盡量不要用催生、針筒、無痛藥或任何其他的藥物,也不想會陰側切或是剖腹。
Before delivering out baby boy, and after doing a lot of research and talking to numerous friends and our physician Dr. Jason Lin, George and I had decided that we wanted as “natural” of a birth as possible, meaning: as little medical intervention as possible. Unless there was a medical emergency or absolute necessity, we wanted no induction, no needles, no pain medication, no episiotomy, and definitely, no surgery.
不過很顯然的我們的寶寶很有想法,他有自己的一套計畫:已經41週大了他就是不打算出來(即便他已經有個超級大頭而且已經3700克),而且一點產兆都沒有!於是林醫師強烈建議我們催生。因此,在10月9日的中午,我們冷靜的打包好,吃飽午餐,非常平靜的前往醫院。這感覺好像是我們要去一趟三天兩夜的小旅行(嗯哼,最好是),但其實仔細想一想,我們的寶寶今天就要出來與我們見面這件事其實是蠻嚇人的!這是一種很詭異的平靜卻緊張的氛圍,好像我們一切都很有效率。
Well, our baby had his own plan. He (even with his big ol’ head and already almost 3700g) just didn’t want to come out, and after 41 weeks and not a single sign of labor, Dr. Lin highly recommended that we induce. So, on October 9 at noon, with our bags calmly packed, lunch eaten, we head to the hospital in a weird daze. It felt like we were packing for a 3-day holiday (haha! Yeah right!), but it was also so scary to think that we could have a baby TODAY! It was a strange calmness/nervousness. Almost like we were being too efficient.
其實坐上計程車後我們一度很想請司機回頭,並取消約診,然後回家繼續等。不過仔細想想又覺得,那,我們到底在等什麼?如果我們只是為了固執的等待陣痛自己來臨,卻因此造成拖延而產生很多不可控制的病發症怎麼辦?
There were moments in the short cab ride when we nearly told the taxi to turn around, cancel the appointment, and just wait it out. And then there were times when we thought, well, what exactly are we waiting for? What if we cause some complications because we were stubborn about waiting for contractions to start on their own?
每一位迎接寶寶來臨的準媽媽甚至準爸爸都會害怕自己的寶寶會在準備出生的前幾天因為受臍帶纏繞而窒息,或是寶寶會開始在媽媽肚子的羊水中便便甚而吃到自己的胎便,這其實很危險且容易造成感染,或是胎盤會開始失去功能等等。身為一位母親,妳就是會時不時的替寶寶擔心這擔心那,一切都是為了確保他/她能夠平安。
Every mother and even father has the fear that their baby will get tangled on its umbilical cord and stop breathing just DAYS before he or she is supposed to be born, or that it will start to poop inside and eat it’s own poop inside the amniotic fluid which can be very dangerous and cause infection, or the placenta will start will fail, etc etc. As a mother, you are constantly worried about that baby inside your belly and you just want to do anything possible to make sure it is OK.
所以,因為腦中有這麼多的擔心和顧慮不斷徘徊,於是我們乖乖的聽醫師的話,10月9日的中午12點準時到醫院報到,和飯店check in,喔不是,我是說我們的產房,並且真的開始面對催生這件事。
So, with these concerns and considerations in mind, we listened to our doctor and by 12 noon on October 9th, we checked into our hotel room, I mean, our hospital room, and started INDUCTION.
長話短說,38小時過後,我們的男寶寶來到這個世界。我絕對會說他是我們”美麗的男寶寶”!但你們真的見過寶寶剛生出來的樣子嗎?(George當時是搖滾區) 它當時並不是我認為最美的事物我必須承認...,它其實長得像異形啊!哈哈!
Long story short, 38 hours later, we have our baby boy. I would say our “beautiful baby boy,” but have you SEEN a baby when it comes out?! (George did at the business end). It is not the prettiest thing… it looks like an alien! Haha!
說真的我真的不知道如果沒有林思宏醫師、產房護理長王俐文還有其他護理人員、Holly及許多客服人員們的協助我會怎麼樣。生寶寶真的是件既美妙卻又嚇人的一件事,尤其當妳在分娩的這段期間只有感受到自己的無比脆弱,妳絕對會需要一個懂妳也懂妳的寶寶的團隊來支持妳:一個能不時監測妳和寶寶狀態的專業團隊,且具備充分耐心可以願意一一回答妳百萬種不可思議的問題。妳絕對會需要一個盡量能讓妳感到放心的環境,在這可能是妳人生中最不舒服的一天!(或者舉我為例,我人生中最不舒服的38小時!)
I honestly don’t know what I would have done without the support of Dr. Jason Lin, Wendy (our doula), and the rest of the nurses and staff at 禾馨婦產科-專業母胎兒醫學中心 . Having a baby is a wonderful, yet absolutely terrifying thing, and you feel completely vulnerable when you are going through labor. You need a team by your side who knows what YOU want for your delivery and for you and your baby. A professional group who is there to monitor you and your baby in case anything goes wrong, and who is also caring and supportive enough to answer all of your millions of silly questions. You need an environment which makes you feel as comfortable as possible, in what is going to possibly be THE MOST UNcomfortable day in your life! (Or, in my case, 38 LOOONG hours of my life!)
謝謝林醫師的熱情和專業,尤其在回答我們千奇百怪的問題的同時還能用一套幽默與邏輯來平息我們的不安。如果我真的要再做一次生產這件事,不用問,我一定會讓George來生...哈哈。不過說真的,我真的找不到第二人選來幫我的男寶寶順產接生。
Thank you Dr. Lin for your passion for your job, your professionalism when answering our questions, and your sense of humor to calm our nerves. If I had to do it all over again, there’s no question… I’d make GEORGE have our baby… Haha. But seriously, I can’t think of a better person that I’d rather have deliver our baby boy.
再來是護理長王俐文,妳真的是上帝派來的天使、我的救世主!妳陪伴著我和George最難熬的那幾個小時是我永生難忘!妳在我最艱困的的每一次陣痛幫我擦乾我的眼淚、用妳的笑容鼓勵我,幫我擠出那些痛、按摩我、跟我一起做骨盆搖擺運動,妳是我的意志力讓我堅持到最後。真的真的真的好感謝妳
And Wendy. Oh Wendy. You are an angel. A godsend. My savior! The hours that you spent with George and I during my most difficult moments will never be forgotten. You helped wipe away my tears, encouraged me with your smile, squeezed, massaged, swayed, and moved with me through all of my toughest contractions, and you kept me sane when I thought I couldn’t last another second. THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU.
獻給那些即將臨盆的媽咪們,我不騙你,生產真的是我人生目前做過最嚇人的一件事!我從來沒有為一件事情如此害怕、緊張過。不過希望妳也可以一樣,有個很支持妳、照顧妳的家人和醫療團隊在妳身邊,也能像我一樣,順利地生出健康、開心又獨一無二珍貴的寶寶,妳們的寶寶!祝妳好運!加油!
To any moms out there about to deliver a baby, I won’t lie. It is the scariest thing I have ever done in my life. I have never been so nervous or scared about anything before. But hopefully, like me, you have an amazing support group and family by your side… and like me, you will also deliver a healthy, happy and precious baby. YOUR baby. GOOD LUCK. JIA YOU!
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原先我想像好萊塢明星一樣左手一個右手一個,身上再一個,爸爸那還有兩個~來個五胎組球隊~當然這曾是我愛死孩子的天真想法!
後來知道了一些現實面以及看過各種小惡魔的畫面後,決定兩胎真的已經很剛好了!很足夠!
但隨著年紀增長,越來越害怕各種改變與未知!一次又一次看到這種生產過程還有養小孩的過程~
我只能說: 但願我找到對的人,未來的老公能愛我很多很多!跟我一起加油~
首先~要大大感謝大家的恭喜和祝福簡訊及禮物!其實到現在一切都還感覺很不真實,而我好像還停留在呆滯的狀態。我,的,天,啊,我真的是位媽咪了! George Young 我們有個兒子了!
(對了所以有人猜對嗎?是位男孩,10/11,凌晨2:37出生,3650公克,有大GG(像媽媽一樣man,哈哈!)
First of all, THANK YOU for all of the congratulatory messages, support, and presents! It’s been so surreal and I’m still in a daze. OMG! I’m a MOMMY!!! GEORGE, WE HAVE A SON!! @instageorgy
(BTW, anybody guess correctly? Baby boy, born Oct 11, 2:37am, 3650g, big GG (Takes after mommy. haha!))
現在我終於有時間可以稍微回顧,也同時想把這特別的分娩經驗分享給大家。
Now that I have time to think back, I wanted to share MY labor experience with you.
如何把寶寶生出來的101條守則:
How to deliver a baby 101:
先列出一個非常詳細的生寶寶計畫,包含以下需要事先想清楚:
自然產 v.s. 剖腹產
有打藥催生 v.s. 無藥
會陰剪開 v.s. 自然撕裂
是否寶寶一生出來就和母體肌膚接觸
是否保存臍帶、臍帶血
Write a very detailed birth plan. Include the following
Vaginal delivery vs. C-section
Medicated vs. Non-medicated
Episiotomy or natural tearing
Skin to skin afterwards or not
Do you want to keep the umbilical cord and cord blood for cord blood registry?
2. 小心翼翼地拿著那本生寶寶計畫並且沿長邊對著中線對折
Take that birth plan and carefully fold it in half, long ways, down the middle.
3. 再將紙攤開來
Open it back up again
4. 將紙的右上角往中線摺成三角形
Fold the top right corner down to the middle line, forming a triangle
5. 將紙的左上角往中線摺成另一個對等的三角形
Fold the left right corner down to the middle line, forming a matching triangle
6. 將你的生寶寶計畫(現在它應該是個紙飛機了)往窗外飛,然後和它揮手說再見
Fly your birth plan (now a paper airplane) out the closest window and wave byebye
哈哈。 well, 這個是我自己的經驗啦。
Haha. Well, that’s how it worked out for me in the end anyway.
生小孩之前,我們做很多研究,問了很多朋友然後跟我們的醫生 林思宏醫師 討論了。我跟George決定要用最自然的方式來生小孩, 用最少的醫療。 除非有緊急狀況或是必須的條件,我們盡量不要用催生、針筒、無痛藥或任何其他的藥物,也不想會陰側切或是剖腹。
Before delivering out baby boy, and after doing a lot of research and talking to numerous friends and our physician Dr. Jason Lin, George and I had decided that we wanted as “natural” of a birth as possible, meaning: as little medical intervention as possible. Unless there was a medical emergency or absolute necessity, we wanted no induction, no needles, no pain medication, no episiotomy, and definitely, no surgery.
不過很顯然的我們的寶寶很有想法,他有自己的一套計畫:已經41週大了他就是不打算出來(即便他已經有個超級大頭而且已經3700克),而且一點產兆都沒有!於是林醫師強烈建議我們催生。因此,在10月9日的中午,我們冷靜的打包好,吃飽午餐,非常平靜的前往醫院。這感覺好像是我們要去一趟三天兩夜的小旅行(嗯哼,最好是),但其實仔細想一想,我們的寶寶今天就要出來與我們見面這件事其實是蠻嚇人的!這是一種很詭異的平靜卻緊張的氛圍,好像我們一切都很有效率。
Well, our baby had his own plan. He (even with his big ol’ head and already almost 3700g) just didn’t want to come out, and after 41 weeks and not a single sign of labor, Dr. Lin highly recommended that we induce. So, on October 9 at noon, with our bags calmly packed, lunch eaten, we head to the hospital in a weird daze. It felt like we were packing for a 3-day holiday (haha! Yeah right!), but it was also so scary to think that we could have a baby TODAY! It was a strange calmness/nervousness. Almost like we were being too efficient.
其實坐上計程車後我們一度很想請司機回頭,並取消約診,然後回家繼續等。不過仔細想想又覺得,那,我們到底在等什麼?如果我們只是為了固執的等待陣痛自己來臨,卻因此造成拖延而產生很多不可控制的病發症怎麼辦?
There were moments in the short cab ride when we nearly told the taxi to turn around, cancel the appointment, and just wait it out. And then there were times when we thought, well, what exactly are we waiting for? What if we cause some complications because we were stubborn about waiting for contractions to start on their own?
每一位迎接寶寶來臨的準媽媽甚至準爸爸都會害怕自己的寶寶會在準備出生的前幾天因為受臍帶纏繞而窒息,或是寶寶會開始在媽媽肚子的羊水中便便甚而吃到自己的胎便,這其實很危險且容易造成感染,或是胎盤會開始失去功能等等。身為一位母親,妳就是會時不時的替寶寶擔心這擔心那,一切都是為了確保他/她能夠平安。
Every mother and even father has the fear that their baby will get tangled on its umbilical cord and stop breathing just DAYS before he or she is supposed to be born, or that it will start to poop inside and eat it’s own poop inside the amniotic fluid which can be very dangerous and cause infection, or the placenta will start will fail, etc etc. As a mother, you are constantly worried about that baby inside your belly and you just want to do anything possible to make sure it is OK.
所以,因為腦中有這麼多的擔心和顧慮不斷徘徊,於是我們乖乖的聽醫師的話,10月9日的中午12點準時到醫院報到,和飯店check in,喔不是,我是說我們的產房,並且真的開始面對催生這件事。
So, with these concerns and considerations in mind, we listened to our doctor and by 12 noon on October 9th, we checked into our hotel room, I mean, our hospital room, and started INDUCTION.
長話短說,38小時過後,我們的男寶寶來到這個世界。我絕對會說他是我們”美麗的男寶寶”!但你們真的見過寶寶剛生出來的樣子嗎?(George當時是搖滾區) 它當時並不是我認為最美的事物我必須承認...,它其實長得像異形啊!哈哈!
Long story short, 38 hours later, we have our baby boy. I would say our “beautiful baby boy,” but have you SEEN a baby when it comes out?! (George did at the business end). It is not the prettiest thing… it looks like an alien! Haha!
說真的我真的不知道如果沒有林思宏醫師、產房護理長王俐文還有其他護理人員、Holly及許多客服人員們的協助我會怎麼樣。生寶寶真的是件既美妙卻又嚇人的一件事,尤其當妳在分娩的這段期間只有感受到自己的無比脆弱,妳絕對會需要一個懂妳也懂妳的寶寶的團隊來支持妳:一個能不時監測妳和寶寶狀態的專業團隊,且具備充分耐心可以願意一一回答妳百萬種不可思議的問題。妳絕對會需要一個盡量能讓妳感到放心的環境,在這可能是妳人生中最不舒服的一天!(或者舉我為例,我人生中最不舒服的38小時!)
I honestly don’t know what I would have done without the support of Dr. Jason Lin, Wendy (our doula), and the rest of the nurses and staff at 禾馨婦產科-專業母胎兒醫學中心 . Having a baby is a wonderful, yet absolutely terrifying thing, and you feel completely vulnerable when you are going through labor. You need a team by your side who knows what YOU want for your delivery and for you and your baby. A professional group who is there to monitor you and your baby in case anything goes wrong, and who is also caring and supportive enough to answer all of your millions of silly questions. You need an environment which makes you feel as comfortable as possible, in what is going to possibly be THE MOST UNcomfortable day in your life! (Or, in my case, 38 LOOONG hours of my life!)
謝謝林醫師的熱情和專業,尤其在回答我們千奇百怪的問題的同時還能用一套幽默與邏輯來平息我們的不安。如果我真的要再做一次生產這件事,不用問,我一定會讓George來生...哈哈。不過說真的,我真的找不到第二人選來幫我的男寶寶順產接生。
Thank you Dr. Lin for your passion for your job, your professionalism when answering our questions, and your sense of humor to calm our nerves. If I had to do it all over again, there’s no question… I’d make GEORGE have our baby… Haha. But seriously, I can’t think of a better person that I’d rather have deliver our baby boy.
再來是護理長王俐文,妳真的是上帝派來的天使、我的救世主!妳陪伴著我和George最難熬的那幾個小時是我永生難忘!妳在我最艱困的的每一次陣痛幫我擦乾我的眼淚、用妳的笑容鼓勵我,幫我擠出那些痛、按摩我、跟我一起做骨盆搖擺運動,妳是我的意志力讓我堅持到最後。真的真的真的好感謝妳
And Wendy. Oh Wendy. You are an angel. A godsend. My savior! The hours that you spent with George and I during my most difficult moments will never be forgotten. You helped wipe away my tears, encouraged me with your smile, squeezed, massaged, swayed, and moved with me through all of my toughest contractions, and you kept me sane when I thought I couldn’t last another second. THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU.
獻給那些即將臨盆的媽咪們,我不騙你,生產真的是我人生目前做過最嚇人的一件事!我從來沒有為一件事情如此害怕、緊張過。不過希望妳也可以一樣,有個很支持妳、照顧妳的家人和醫療團隊在妳身邊,也能像我一樣,順利地生出健康、開心又獨一無二珍貴的寶寶,妳們的寶寶!祝妳好運!加油!
To any moms out there about to deliver a baby, I won’t lie. It is the scariest thing I have ever done in my life. I have never been so nervous or scared about anything before. But hopefully, like me, you have an amazing support group and family by your side… and like me, you will also deliver a healthy, happy and precious baby. YOUR baby. GOOD LUCK. JIA YOU!
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Ideologies just got mixed into doctrinal basis ...
For my friends who are interested in the Evangelical Theological Society, please take a look at this important message from past president Stan Gundry, who, like me, is vitally interested in the continuing health of the Society. He has given me permission to copy it here.
WHENCE AND WHITHER ETS?
An Open Letter to the Members of ETS
Stanley N. Gundry
President of the Evangelical Theological Society, 1978
The following resolutions were adopted in the last business session of the 2015 national meeting of the Evangelical Theological Society:
(1) We affirm that all persons are created in the image and likeness of God and thus possess inherent dignity and worth.
(2) We affirm that marriage is the covenantal union of one man and one woman, for life.
(3) We affirm that Scripture teaches that sexual intimacy is reserved for marriage as defined above. This excludes all other forms of sexual intimacy.
(4) We affirm that God created men and women, imbued with the distinct traits of manhood and womanhood, and that each is an unchangeable gift of God that constitutes personal identity.
In the immediate aftermath of this business session, many ETS members were deeply troubled that any ETS members would vote against these resolutions. The post-ETS blogs of a few ETS members and the comments of their followers expressed dismay that anyone who claims to be evangelical and subscribes to the Doctrinal Basis of the Society would cast a negative vote.
But there was also a significant minority that opposed and voted against these resolutions. These members were troubled that such resolutions would be introduced, that they were not ruled out of order or at least tabled, and that they were passed by a significant majority of those present and voting. I was among the minority that voted “Nay.”
Why? It is a question that deserves to be answered because I am convinced that the future of ETS depends on our repudiation of what happened in that session and that ETS members must realize that resolutions of this nature are not consistent with the nature of the Society. In fact, the issue at stake is whether or not ETS will remain committed to the original purpose for which ETS was formed. I have not taken even an informal poll of others who voted against the resolutions, but I have discussed the matter with enough members to give me confidence that many members agree that the future of ETS is at stake.
My history within ETS uniquely qualifies me to address the concerns these resolutions raise. I have been immersed in the culture and affairs of ETS since my student days in the 1950s and 1960s. I knew on a first-name basis many of the first-generation ETS members. I was taught by some of them. I have been a full member of the Society since about 1968. I have attended most national meetings since 1970, and in the 1970s I was an active participant in the Midwestern section of ETS, serving also as president of that section and on its leadership committee. Then in 1978 I served as the national president of ETS and planned the program for the 30th Annual Meeting of ETS in collaboration with Dr. Kenneth Kantzer, followed by serving the allotted time on the ETS Executive Committee. Relevant to the concerns at hand, my first-hand knowledge of the workings of ETS and its Constitution, most especially the Purpose and Doctrinal Basis of the Society as stated in the Constitution, and my acquaintance with many of the founders and first-generation members of ETS give me insight into their intentions in forming the Society.
So why did I vote against the resolutions? Because the resolutions went beyond the Doctrinal Basis of the Society and were inconsistent with the clearly stated Purpose of ETS. But I run ahead of myself and it is a bit more complicated than that. So let me start at the beginning, the resolutions themselves.
First, it is unfortunate that the resolutions were presented at the last business meeting and then discussed and voted on as a group. My understanding is that those responsible for the agenda did not anticipate that the resolutions would be controversial and so they were scheduled to be considered in the last business session. This was not inconsistent as such with the ETS Constitution or Bylaws, but in a case like this, members should have had advance warning of the nature of the resolutions and ample opportunity to discuss them among themselves and on the floor of the business meeting. Further, many members had already left the conference or were absent for other reasons. Thus, members could not deliberately consider in advance whether or not voting on such resolutions was even consistent with the Purpose of ETS; and, given the time constraints of the program, there was not sufficient time to debate the merits of the individual resolutions and to vote up or down on each one.
The resolutions were so poorly stated that they needed such careful consideration. For instance, the second resolution ignored the question of biblical grounds for divorce and remarriage. And given the diversity of views on divorce and remarriage within ETS, is this really a question on which ETS should be taking a position even in the form of a resolution? What about the third resolution? Viewed superficially, who could possibly object to that resolution? But looked at more closely, “sexual intimacy” and “all other forms of sexual intimacy” are squishy descriptors. Are they intended to refer to physical sexual intimacy, and if so, are holding hands, kissing, or hugging forbidden? My fundamentalist and separatist father would have thought so, but what about the membership of ETS? Would we have a consensus on that question?
And what about the fourth resolution affirming “distinct traits of manhood and womanhood”? While I suspect all members of ETS (even those of us who self-identify as biblical egalitarians) believe that men and women in many respects are complementary to one another, many of us also believe that the terms “manhood” and “womanhood” are reifications of socially and culturally conditioned patterns of behavior more than they are descriptors of biblically supported male and female characteristics. Rather than being biblically supported, the terms tend to refer to stereotypical lists of alleged gender characteristics to which men and women are expected to conform. Even self-avowed complementarians have no consensus on what constitutes “manhood and womanhood,” so why would a scholarly society like ETS that includes both complementarians and egalitarians even take such a resolution seriously?
So I return to the opening statement of this first point—scheduling the resolutions for consideration as a group at the second business meeting without prior notice meant there was not adequate time to consider and debate the merits and wording of the resolutions and it made it impossible to carefully consider whether or not voting on such resolutions was even consistent with the Purpose of ETS.
Second, this broader issue needs to be considered by the Society. Is it even appropriate for resolutions to be introduced, debated, and voted on that go beyond the Doctrinal Basis and officially stated Purpose of the Society? I believe the answer is a clear and unequivocal “No!” Members tend to forget that ETS was never intended to have a doctrinal statement to which members had to subscribe. We have a “Doctrinal Basis,” one that originally had one affirmation: The Bible alone, and the Bible in its entirety, is the Word of God written and is therefore inerrant in the autographs. Years later, the Trinitarian statement was added to the Doctrinal Basis out of concern that anti-Trinitarians such as Jehovah’s Witnesses might successfully claim membership in ETS. But even with that addition, it remains a Doctrinal Basis, not a doctrinal statement. Some members seem not to understand and/or remember the significance of the fact that we function as a scholarly society with a Doctrinal Basis. But even many who remember that we have a Doctrinal Basis all too easily and sloppily refer to it using the phrases “doctrinal basis” and “doctrinal statement” interchangeably, suggesting they do not really understand (or perhaps accept) the significance of the distinction. But this distinction is at the very heart and Purpose of ETS. A bit of historical context will be useful here.
When ETS was formed in 1949, evangelical biblical and theological scholarship was just beginning to emerge from its decline in the dark days of the modernist-fundamentalist debate and the loss of so many mainline denominations and associated colleges, seminaries, and missionary agencies to the takeover of these institutions by theological liberals. For at least fifteen or twenty years, fundamentalists and evangelicals at the local church and grassroots level had a profound suspicion of serious biblical and theological scholarship. But in the mid and late 1940s, this began to change as scholars who were willing to self-identify as fundamentalists (in the classic meaning of that term) and/or evangelical began to find each other, come together, and realize that in spite of all that divided them, they held one thing in common—the Bible and the Bible alone in its entirety is God’s Word written, it speaks truthfully on whatever it intends to say and teach, and hence it is the only rule for Christian faith and practice. Eventually in 1949 many of the fundamentalist and evangelical scholars who shared this conviction agreed there was a need for a scholarly society where members shared the same basis on which conservative scholarship and research should be discussed and debated. On that Doctrinal Basis, they formed the Evangelical Theological Society.
It is easy to forget, or perhaps many ETS members do not know, how deep and sometimes rancorous the divisions were that otherwise separated these same scholars. These divisions ranged from matters of church polity to biblical hermeneutics to the various loci of systematic theology. In fact, dispensational and amillennial theologians were accustomed to trading charges that the hermeneutical methods and theological systems of the other undermined the authority of Scripture. Scholars who practiced secondary separation risked their reputations if they joined with other evangelical scholars who practiced only primary separation or who were inclusivists. At least four of the ETS presidents in the first twenty years of the society would have been sympathetic to what is now known as biblical egalitarianism, a matter over which ETS members today have profound disagreements. Yet these scholars came together in ETS as did Pentecostals and cessationists, believer-immersionists and paedo-sprinklers, Arminians and Wesleyans and Reformed and Lutheran, as well as those who held to congregational, or presbyterial, or episcopal church polity.
A quick scan of the listing of ETS presidents over the past sixty-seven years and the institutions they represented makes the same point. Schools represented range from Wycliffe College, to Dallas Theological Seminary, to Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, to Trinity Evangelical Divinity School, to Liberty Baptist Theological Seminary, to Moody Bible Institute. The theological spectrum represented by ETS presidents is also quite remarkable. As I look at the list I can identify at least twelve presidents associated with one of five or six varieties of Presbyterian and Reformed communions, thirteen who were dispensationalists, five who were covenant premillennialists, one Pentecostal, three Wesleyans, and twelve sympathetic with biblical egalitarianism.
Throughout its history, ETS has been a demonstration of the Purpose for which ETS was formed: The Purpose of the Society shall be to foster conservative biblical scholarship by providing a medium for the oral exchange and written expression of thought and research in the general field of the theological disciplines as centered in the Scriptures.
So I return to the opening question and statement of my second point—“Is it even appropriate for resolutions to be introduced, debated, and voted on that go beyond the Doctrinal Basis and officially stated Purpose of the Society?” I believe the answer is a clear and unequivocal “No!” Why? Because such resolutions are inconsistent with the Purpose of ETS and the reason why we have a Doctrinal Basis and not a doctrinal statement.
Third, the introduction and passage of the four-fold resolution package and the internet conversations following the 67th Annual Meeting are symptomatic of the desire of some ETS members to move the Society in the direction of precise, doctrinal, and interpretive clarity and definition, ideally in the form of a doctrinal statement and other “position statements.” I am trained not only as a theologian but as a church historian; consequently I am inclined to be skeptical of conspiracy theories unless there is compelling evidence. Nevertheless, based on the evidence, some of us are now wondering if there is a conspiracy within ETS to:
1) ease out biblical egalitarians,
2) exclude women from the leadership of ETS,
3) let qualified women scholars know they are not part of “the old boys network,”
4) shut down discussion of contentious ethical and theological issues,
5) marginalize those who do not come out on the “right side” of those issues,
6) “pack” the nominating committee so as to get their compatriots in the positions of leadership,
7) question the evangelical and inerrantist bona fides of those who ask hard questions and come up with answers that most of us are not persuaded by, and
8) propose and pass a poorly framed set of four resolutions that makes the Society sound more like the Family Research Council or the Council on Biblical Manhood and Womanhood than the intentionally diverse “medium for the oral and written expressions of thought and research in the general field of the theological disciplines as centered in the Scriptures” as stated in the ETS Purpose statement.
Lest I be misunderstood, I do believe that theological boundaries are important within the church and its institutions, and as an evangelical Protestant, I believe it is appropriate for churches and parachurch organizations to draw those boundary lines, based on their understanding of Scripture. But ETS is not a church and it was formed to serve a clearly defined purpose. It is significant that it takes an 80% majority vote to amend only three things in the ETS constitution—the Doctrinal Basis, the Society’s Purpose, and the requirement for an 80% majority to amend the first two items. The founders of our Society could hardly have made it clearer that they regarded the Purpose and Doctrinal Basis of ETS to be essential to the organization they were creating.
Why is it important to guard the integrity of the original Purpose and Basis of ETS? I will answer with another question. What better forum is there for collegial discussion and debate of complementarianism and egalitarianism, open theism and classical theism and all points in between, eschatology, the “new perspective” on Paul, and yes, even the question of whether same-sex “marriages” can be defended biblically, than a forum where we have agreed to appeal to the sole source of authority for Christian faith and practice, the Bible, God’s Word written?
Copyright © 2016 by Stanley N. Gundry. Used by permission. All rights reserved.
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